Experiences Regarding What?
by Bob
(Idaho)
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Get that dude warring that red robe,.. rip his damned head off that betraying SOB
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January 2012
01/26/2012
Reincarnation, truth or myth? What do I think?
Yes, I very well could have been A couple of pea-brained artists that I have come to know quite well. I have two artist friends that sometimes have a tendency to believe me when I tell them this, but have a real hard time believing when I tell them who painted some of my collection. I don't think Vincent really knew or maybe whether or not he really cared, but he always said he knew Rembrandt quite well in all of his letters to his Brother Theo.
This book was written by an author with the same family name of van Loon as the diary's author. He had no idea what was really being revealed, other than his great-great grand father, ten time removed did happen to get rather involved with a Dutch artist called Rembrandt. It is rather ironic what had started this acquaintance between the good doctor and Rembrandt the artist. This little incident is partially what I myself use as my own proof that reincarnation does in fact really exist.
01/23/2012
Teens accidentally killed Vincent van Gogh?
"Anyone who knew Madame Liberge's father could tell you that he was always to be trusted. www.google.it/imgres
Van Gogh book has tongues wagging
October 23 2011 at 12:00am
By Sapa-AFP
REUTERS
Vincent van Gogh
The Hague - Did Vincent van Gogh, one of the world's greatest artists despite having sold just one painting in his short and tortured lifetime, commit suicide in 1890 in a wheat field in northern France?
Two American authors are now challenging the theory that the enigmatic post-Impressionist killed himself aged 37, saying he claimed to have attempted suicide to protect two teenaged brothers - one of whom shot him.
Van Gogh, who suffered prolonged bouts of mental illness and depression - he sliced off an ear once - was not contemplating taking his life, Gregory White Smith and Steven Naifeh argue in their new book Van Gogh: The Life.
“The version retained is not credible,” Smith said in an interview published in the Dutch newspaper NRC Next.
The duo, who won a Pulitzer Prize for their biography of US artist Jackson Pollock, spent 10 years researching their book, which argues that van Gogh was fatally shot in a farmyard in the town of Auvers-sur-Oise, near Paris.
Their hypothesis - which the head of the Van Gogh museum in Amsterdam calls “spectacular” - has the art world talking.
“I must say, we feel we are in the middle of a whirlwind that we didn't quite anticipate,” Naifeh told AFP by telephone from South Carolina, where he and Smith live.
“We anticipated this would generate, not quite this level of furore, but certainly some level of furore,” he said.
Naifeh added: “These pieces of evidence came from multiple different sources, and only by putting them all together does this alternative version emerge.”
On the CBS show 60 Minutes, Naifeh asked: “How did he (Van Gogh) get the gun? Everybody in Auvers knew that he had been in an insane asylum. Pistols were a rarity in rural France. Who would've given Vincent van Gogh a gun?”
According to the authors, who had access to family letters and private correspondence, the painter left his boarding house on the fateful day - July 27, 1890 - with paints and easel.
“Why would he have waited just until this moment to end his days?” Naifeh told NRC Next. “He wasn't going through the most difficult period in his life.
“Does someone paint when he has decided to end his life? It just simply does not hold,” he added.
Van Gogh - portrayed by Kirk Douglas in the 1956 film Lust for Life - returned to the boarding house run by the Ravoux family five hours later with a bullet wound and died in the arms of his brother Theo after 30 hours.
Smith said doctors at the time reported the bullet entered at a “crazy angle”. The gun and his painting supplies from that day have never been found.
The authors argue that van Gogh was shot, probably accidentally, by one of the Secretan brothers. They say one of them alleged that the artist had stolen his pistol.
When asked by police whether he had committed suicide, he is said to have replied from his deathbed: “I believe so. Don't accuse anybody else... it is I who wanted to kill myself.”
According to the daughter of the boarding house owner - who was 13 at the time of van Gogh's death - the painter replied “yes” when a doctor asked him if he had taken his own life.
Naifeh told CBS: “What the evidence points to is that this incident took place not in the wheat fields, but in a farmyard on the Rue Boucher. That it involved these two boys.
“And that it was either an accident or a deliberate act. Was it playing cowboy in some way that went awry? Was it teasing with the gun with Vincent lunging out? It's hard to know what went on at that moment.”
The Van Gogh museum in Amsterdam - which had extended cooperation to the two authors - said the new theory was “interesting” but added it was premature to discard the long-held suicide theory.
Museum curator Leo Jansen said “there are still questions without answers regarding the suicide of Van Gogh”, but noted that the “spectacular” theory proposed by the two US writers also leaves “some questions unanswered”.
“The two authors have not found new facts, they have just interpreted them differently,” he said, also questioning why van Gogh would protect two boys “who never stopped bothering and teasing him?”
Naifeh said he believed “a couple of kids had shot Vincent van Gogh and he decided to basically protect them and accept this as the way to die. These kids had basically done him the favour of shooting him.
“He knew that he was a burden to Theo. So there's something wonderfully sweet and touching about the fact that Vincent would accept death partly to end his own misery. But even more so to take this terrible burden off of his beloved ill brother's shoulders.”
But Van Gogh - who once wrote that he would never amount to anything as a painter, and whose works now are among the most expensive pieces of art - would not have become the legend had he lived a normal life, leftist Dutch De Volkskrant daily said in an editorial on Tuesday.
“If Vincent van Gogh died of old age at the age of 80 in 1933, bathed in glory and in possession of both his ears, he would never have become the myth that he is today,” it said.
“His psychosis, his depressions, his errors and their manifestations - an ear severed, suicide - are as much the integral history of 'Vincent van Gogh' as the cypresses and wheat fields” he famously painted, it said. - Sapa-AFP
This is Bob Miller (vanrijngo) responce to the above article:
The good Doctor Gachet knew Vincent had the gun or a strong suspicion of it, because Vincent almost pulled something big out of his pocket while his daughter and son were at his house before Vincent leaving to do this little shoot out at the OK corral. This incident of the doctor's threat happened because of the doctor not framing a bunch of his canvases he had given him and the doctor saying he would later on. There were works of his and other artists works Vincent knew were masters of the trade, which the good doctor had gotten for his practice just laying all over the floors.
Vincent's own landlord knew he had the gun, because he had lent it to Vincent for scarring the crows away while he was supposed to be painting in the corn fields. If he would have known that Vincent and these two boys were going to be playing cowboys and acting out the shoot out at the OK corral, he more than likely wouldn't have lent it to him.
Another of the towns people that was very well trusted for what he said, knew Vincent did not go in the direction of the corn fields, but the other direction towards a farmers stockyard and farmyard corral where he supposedly received this piece of lead from these two youngsters playing cowboys. Vincent must have been hiding behind one of the big farm animal dung piles for his protection as they played out this American tragedy of a shoot out, like the happening at the OK corral.
The two young boys more than likely yelled out to Vincent after one of them accidentally shooting Vincent,... Sorry there ol' boy for shooting you,.... we were just playing with our dads guns and didn't know that they were loaded when one went off accidentally. We got to get going now before someone sees us! Please don't tell our parents that we shot you, and for Gods sakes have that wound looked at by a doctor please.
Now more than likely as Vincent was lying there in all that animal defication, he was probably praying he would just die and be done with all the misery and pain he must have been going through, of being shot by those young boys lying there where he was. After laying there a long while having a hard time breathing and not dying, he thought that he had better hide the gun he borrowed for this little game of theirs, so they don't find out what gun actually shot him. I've got to protect those young innocent boys to not ruin their young lives, so I'll just stuff this gun as far as I can down in this pile of dung so not one soul will be able to find it.
Vincent's own landlord knew he had the gun, because he had lent it to Vincent for scarring the crows away while he was supposed to be painting in the corn fields. If he would have known that Vincent and these two boys were going to be playing cowboys and acting out the shoot out at the OK corral, he more than likely wouldn't have lent it to him.
Another of the towns people that was very well trusted for what he said, knew Vincent did not go in the direction of the corn fields, but the other direction towards a farmers stockyard and farmyard corral where he supposedly received this piece of lead from these two youngsters playing cowboys. Vincent must have been hiding behind one of the big farm animal dung piles for his protection as they played out this American tragedy of a shoot out, like the happening at the OK corral.
The two young boys more than likely yelled out to Vincent after one of them accidentally shooting Vincent,... Sorry there ol' boy for shooting you,.... we were just playing with our dads guns and didn't know that they were loaded when one went off accidentally. We got to get going now before someone sees us! Please don't tell our parents that we shot you, and for Gods sakes have that wound looked at by a doctor please.
Now more than likely as Vincent was lying there in all that animal defication, he was probably praying he would just die and be done with all the misery and pain he must have been going through, of being shot by those young boys lying there where he was. After laying there a long while having a hard time breathing and not dying, he thought that he had better hide the gun he borrowed for this little game of theirs, so they don't find out what gun actually shot him. I've got to protect those young innocent boys to not ruin their young lives, so I'll just stuff this gun as far as I can down in this pile of dung so not one soul will be able to find it.
Cheers!
vanrijngo
01/12/2012
Video preview of mostly Vincent van Gogh works of art.
A video of Vincent van Gogh's ladies, his works of art from my collection including his sisters. These works of art that are hanging on my walls were purchased from all over the world. Most of the art was bought by the use of the internet and eBay from 1998 till the present. Some were purchased from antique stores, antique collector malls sales, traveling antique shows from all over the northwestern USA and some from the east.
Before viewing this video I would like you to take a few moment of your time to look at a few picture I'm going to put up below for you to see before viewing this video.
The Goupil Cie Gallery
Amazing clantel the Goupil Cie Galley received in those days. I'll bet they weren't buying hay for those horses and I'll also bet those penny pinching elite society who were riding in those buggies were mostly buying prints for their walls. Print and litho's were big business for the Goupel Cie when Vincent was working there. He was sack for trying to convince their customers to support the artists, not the machines of his employers that was making most all their works of art.
Lovely little two sided drawing above. It depicts Vincent van Gogh walking away from the Goupel Cie art gallery and artist supply Co with his supplies in his hand that his brother Theo was working for there in Paris. Down the street is Agostina Sagatory his Girlfriend and Tamberine restarant owner with her cop boyfriend just behind her. On the other side of this 19th century drawing is another drawing of the Pontnuff bridge there in Paris, France.
You people from Paris, France should be able to figure what bridge is depicted in this drawing above that's on the other side of the Gupil Cie Gallery drawing shown below. Drawn in Paris 1886 by Vincent showing where he is leaving from the Gallery Goupel Cie with his art supplies in his hand to meet with his Girl friend Agostina from the Tamberin Restarant and Bar down the street.
This picture above is a cropped photograph of a lady in France from a Vincent van Gogh Double-sided drawing from my collection.
Do you see the remarkable resemblance of the two women above?
The top one I bought on eBay in 1998 and the bottom is an x-ray picture of one of the Vincent van Gogh foundation's, a pictures that is their own x-ray of an underneith portrait of a woman from their portrait of Agostina Sagatory painted by Vincent in Arles, France in 1887.
This picture above is of Anna, one of Vincent van Gogh's sisters who was the cause for Vincent leaving her father and Mothers house after their fathers death.
This is a oil on artist board of Anna, Vincent's sister and what she would have look like when she was 7 years old when he painted it. One of his barn yard drawings on it backside dated sept "62" of a horse and a barn yard with the horse started to be painted in oil. It is kind of ironic that Vincent had chose a coral and barnyard to shoot himself at.
The back of Anna's portrait showing a horse and barnyard.
Does that say Kee? Or is that Vincent smiling at us while winking for what he has on his mind and would like to do with that gloved hand of possibly his.
Oil on canvas of Wilhelmina Vincent's sister.
Backside of the oil painting of Wilhelmina his sister.
Photograph of the only woman that was supposed to have Loved Vincent according to the experts.
A oil on canvas that was supposedly given to his lover when she commissioned it to be painted by Vincent.
01/11/2012
01/01/2012
The other side of the coin!
Vincent van Gogh,... the other side of the coin!
This coin was created by the Dutch Mint and its' characteristics is disclaimed by the Dutch Vincent van Gogh Museum & MFA expertise, that something like this ever took place in Vincent's works of art, or as far as any other artists' works of art. Totally not acceptable this day and age of computer science and scanning abilities. Don't they think with new technologies and discoveries that some will have eyes which can see along with minds brains that works? What exactly is their interests in disclaiming this? Do you think possibly a lot of their own Vincent van Gogh's in their own possession would not contain these values and qualities, or come up to the artists' standards, and then concidered to be fake themselves by the use of these technologies? Heaven forbid that this should happen and for them to be found out.
Well,..from my studies, Heaven hasn't a thing to do with it my artistic friends,... it's all about new technologies and the artists themselves, what they do and had done for centuries in the past and present, how they create their own works of art, the reasons and why. How for all these centuries of artists making art, and how these qualities have evaded the MFA expertise is beyond my belief. Well then,... here is another synopsis,.... Say that it hasn't, ... and it's most likely one big conspiracy game involving just a few whales and sharks surrounding the world of fine art, mostly pertaining to the enormous amounts of money involved. Now, just who would you look at if this were actually to be the true case?
I'll make up a short list and you can use your own judgments,... and most likely you will recall experiences of your own from people you have tried to have conversations with and get their opinions and help from in the past. Established artists Foundations, fine art auction houses, supposed fine art expertise from museums and large galleries around this world, Colleges, Universities and Art Academies, Historians, and finally Big Banking Institutes along with the very rich and wealthiest. Didn't the most of you know that all the higher educated elite are the ones who all the starving great artists from the past had sold all their works of art to? If you believe this,... don't even think of reading anything about these two artists Vincent & Rembrandt, just look at the pictures and take these peoples words who have managed to control all their supposed works of art.
This one is a 5 E. silver coin and if your hold it just right you see a perfect image of Vincent just as you do on the 10 E. gold coin
Who actually do you think created this coin, three or four or so Dutchman getting together to place all of the letters into the proper places, or do you possibly think a computer had something to do with it? This will be the finger print of Vincent van Gogh in the future in all of his true works of art. Naturally there will be fact similes in copies of his work, but nothing like the print the computer will read of Vincent's own hand, believe me. This coin impression would have come from what the computer already reads in Vincent's works of art. The patterns below of 75% of his chin area enlarged all the way to 800% here and can be enlarged by the computer's brain as large as it needs to get a correct reading. I do believe the copying of masterful art to fool the so-called experts is coming to a close
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Lordy Lordy,.... cohorte's... now here is the dilemma of all the copyists and forgers surrounding the art market of today is faced with,... just how the hell are they going to be able to copy only what a computer will be able to read while trying to reproduce a Vincent van Gogh? Good Luck to all of you MFA copiers! Just don't slip up and get your own name entangled in there somewhere, or possibly the uf the computers could be looking for you.
Is this world doomed with having to put up with MFA expertise of yesterday held over to this day, of almost total lack of artistic knowledge of the past masters of great artists while just using two examples of such artists, Rembrandt and van Gogh. Most totally rely on the Vincent van Gogh Foundation for their own evaluations and determinations of whether or not a painting or work of art was in-fact done by Vincent van Gogh. This would be like turning over all the consumer testing and reports of Ralph Nadar back to the industries and manufacturers to make their own testing and evaluations of there own products. What kind of shape do you suppose or think publics products would be in, about 20 years of this kind of evaluations. Well, I will tell you,... their product quality would become extinct, with only their original products being able to with stand consumer use, or trusted to be of good quality, and most likely the quality of products would become so expensive that only the rich would be able to afford the products which are able to with stand any age factor, and the public would have to suffice with the replicas that they are now producing for the general public only having to replace every so often. Just think about what I have just said, and ask yourself why the van Gogh Foundation should be the ones to authenticate Vincent's works of art, when they can't even see what he had done in his art work in the past or even get the dating right on the self-portraits now in their own collection.
Both Rembrandt and Vincent known mostly only by their first names are concidered by myself and some others to be the greatest artists from this world of fine art, and most who studies their art, meaning mostly other artists and art historians throughout this world do think they themselves understand them better than most. Rembrandt has influenced more masters of art than any other artist in history. While the slipping of the last 336 years since Rembrandt's death, the experts are no closer to what he had actually done in his works of art either, and know very little about his life as an artist and as to his 63 year of life he spent mostly in Amsterdam. If they did, there would be absolutely no question as to his original works of art being done by him without a question of the manor of or the circle of this artist. Rembrandt had fallen out of favor of the experts in his own day as an artist, and as it continue today, taking away from his oeuvre some of the most important historical paintings that he had painted.
The MFA experts continue to look at his works of art with contempt, to do the same today as was done in his day. One might say that Vincent van Gogh is the next greatest, and by saying so, you can also consider him the greatest along with Rembrandt. I will not elaborate on this too much, but just look at the controversies over both their works of art. The two greatest artists of this world while most experts and Historians can't even tell if the art work was done by them or come close to the right dates that they were created, ones still considered to be their own works. What exactly is their MFA expertise when they refuse to comment, even on controversial art with good reviews from the brave one who actually put their own reputations at stake, and while in the positions they are in, join the rest of the powerful ones who makes their threats for them to remain silent on the matters. Is this what they call fine art expertise?
vanrijngo
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